I Want To Buy A Camry

"PS9" (PS9) 06/26/2016 at 11:17 • Filed to: None

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It has 268HP. Maybe one of you can talk me out of it.

Invinciblejets > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:20

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Don’t buy it because it's faster than my rx7. And that's embarrassing.

Nibby > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:23

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Yes it will move quickly in a straight line.

That’s the most fun thing about it.

Vicente Esteve > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:24

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If you must have a Toyota of that era get a RAV-4 with the V6 and 4WD so you can at least take it off-road.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:26

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You know what also has that much power? A $4000 Camaro.

E90M3 > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:27

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F that, buy my one series.

S65 > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:31

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Buy this eclipse instead

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/cto/565446…

TheHondaBro > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:32

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Do it.

fhrblig > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:34

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An Optima Turbo has almost as much power. And a Turbo. And looks better. Probably cheaper, too. Also, it’s a Turbo.

S65 > TheHondaBro 06/26/2016 at 11:35

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You were supposed to stop him

TheHondaBro > fhrblig 06/26/2016 at 11:36

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So no usable power at the bottom-end.

Plus, supercharger > turbocharger

Nick Has an Exocet > fhrblig 06/26/2016 at 11:39

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My father had a an optima turbo (on my advice). That one had 274hp (they lowered the hp but increased torque for the latest generation of that motor). That car was pretty terrifying to drive fast. No steering feel, a suspension that as much confidence as a paper bag on a rainy day, and enough power to get in trouble very quickly.

I remember driving it and thinking “my god, I advised my father into a death trap”. It had a really good interior though. Very Saab-like.

Ike > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:51

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If you really like it. Get it? Personally Id have something less practical and a little more fun

Connqr > S65 06/26/2016 at 11:51

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Good job Tavarish

PS9 > fhrblig 06/26/2016 at 11:51

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They didn’t make the turbo until 2013, and it’s a ~3x premium over the pictured camry at that point.

Connqr > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:55

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It's literally beige. Buy something moar awesomer. Get yoself a Honda Prelude. Y'all will torch that Camry when the VTEC kicks in, yo. And it's moar availabler with a manual transmission yo.

bobkustofawitshz > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:55

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Buy a Mustang instead.

305 hp. Manual. 19/29 mpg. The proper wheels driven. Styling that won’t put you to sleep.

PS9 > Connqr 06/26/2016 at 11:57

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You almost had me there.

For Sweden > PS9 06/26/2016 at 11:58

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Why buy used Camry when you can buy used Volvo

fhrblig > TheHondaBro 06/26/2016 at 11:59

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That sounds about right, yes.

fhrblig > PS9 06/26/2016 at 12:01

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What year is that Camry? They all look alike to me.

The previous Optima had a V6 too but was somehow even more boring than a Camry, so I’d say go for the Camry.

PS9 > bobkustofawitshz 06/26/2016 at 12:01

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Would love to, but the ones that got the good V6 are a 2x premium over the pictured Camry. The pre-2011 Models that aren’t cobras are totally unappealing at this point. Dammit Ford, why did you have to make the 2v so lame...

PS9 > For Sweden 06/26/2016 at 12:02

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I should just sell all of my shit and buy a Ferrari. The appreciation will cover the losses, and I can just shower at the YMCA.

xyzabc > PS9 06/26/2016 at 12:03

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Get it. The women at the retirement home will think you’re hot.

Amoore100 > PS9 06/26/2016 at 12:05

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Accord V6 >> Camry V6 any day, every day because J series engine.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > fhrblig 06/26/2016 at 12:11

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2007-2010

For Sweden > PS9 06/26/2016 at 12:13

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But the Volvo will be just as cheap as the Camry and have straight six

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > PS9 06/26/2016 at 12:14

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I cant really argue against this. The camry hate kind of confuses me tbh. People love the panther cars which are big squishy cars with a good amount of power, isnt that what the camry is?

Connqr > PS9 06/26/2016 at 12:20

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Damn, OK. Read any Tavarish article to see what you can get for the same amount of money.

bobkustofawitshz > PS9 06/26/2016 at 12:34

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Yeah I was thinking 2011 or so Camry, right before they changed up the styling. But I’ll admit I’m not all that familiar with them. If you’re looking at one a bit older, then yeah the good Mustangs are probably outside your range.

But there’s hope! Consider a first-gen G35. Sedan or coupe, RWD or AWD, manual (though not with AWD), 260-298 hp depending on the model. Well kept examples should be well within your price range.

This AWD sedan is on eBay for under $7K.

Captain of the Enterprise > PS9 06/26/2016 at 12:37

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Do it

boxrocket > PS9 06/26/2016 at 12:51

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Better idea: Mazdaspeed6. 274hp, AWD, turbocharged , manual transmission.

Or, really, many other choices.

For not much more, get the Lexus version. Might as well be somewhat pampered if you're going beige.

Slant6 > PS9 06/26/2016 at 13:30

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You should do it.

It’s a good car.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > PS9 06/26/2016 at 13:40

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Because if you want a fast FWD sofa from circa 2009 this has a 305 hp V8.

PS9 > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 06/26/2016 at 13:45

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Those things take to transmissions the way a room full of children does to a bowl of cookies. Aside from that, my first V8 powered car ever is NOT going to be FWD. HARD PASS.

79 horsepower monster > PS9 06/26/2016 at 13:49

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Power doesn’t necessarily make a fun car. I had a supercharged grand prix GTP (240hp/260ftlbs) that was far less fun to drive than my 170hp Subaru Legacy wagon. The camry will be boring in the turns and it probably won’t even feel fast in the straight. It will be reliable, though

TFSIVTEC drivesavolvo > For Sweden 06/26/2016 at 14:03

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Turbo Volvo is the only Volvo

Svart Smart, traded in his Smart > PS9 06/26/2016 at 14:04

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The 2012+ models had a direct-injected 3.6L V6 good for about 300 hp.

PS9 > Svart Smart, traded in his Smart 06/26/2016 at 14:07

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Toyota’s own website claims 268. It’s likely capable of 300+, but I think you’ll have to consider something over on the Lexus lot if you want numbers like that.

Svart Smart, traded in his Smart > PS9 06/26/2016 at 14:08

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Oh sorry, I meant the Impala, not the Camry.

PS9 > Svart Smart, traded in his Smart 06/26/2016 at 14:30

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You know...it’s kind of sad that the Impala has made a whole bunch of improvements to itself (like the aformentioned 300HP V6) since 2007 and the Camry hasn’t really. No pressure at all from others in the market despite being the same car they made almost 10 years ago...

That should make me not want to buy the Camry. it’s not working, though.

For Sweden > TFSIVTEC drivesavolvo 06/26/2016 at 15:12

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T6?

JR1 > PS9 06/26/2016 at 15:24

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What not a CTS?

PS9 > JR1 06/26/2016 at 15:38

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Needs to be a V if it’s going to be a CTS, and those are out of the price range.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > TheHondaBro 06/26/2016 at 15:48

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Actually it should have plenty of power down low, and not a lot up top. That’s how most modern turbo cars are.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Svart Smart, traded in his Smart 06/26/2016 at 15:49

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They were still fucking terrible cars. Worst than a Camry in every way, and still slower.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > PS9 06/26/2016 at 15:50

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No, that Impala generation was garbage. They improved the engine, and that’s pretty much it. Even then, it’s still slower than the Camry.

TFSIVTEC drivesavolvo > For Sweden 06/26/2016 at 15:52

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Yes

Andrew > PS9 06/26/2016 at 17:42

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I secretly want one

JR1 > PS9 06/26/2016 at 17:44

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Really? I don't mind the standard CTS that 300hp 3.6 is pretty nice

PS9 > JR1 06/26/2016 at 17:45

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I’m sure it’s fine, but my first CTS is going to be a V. No exceptions.

JasonStern911 > PS9 06/26/2016 at 22:27

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“I’d rather have a soulless 260hp econombox family car than even consider a 210hp modern pony car!”

not sure why you’re asking Oppo for advice then...

FWIW, I vote Infiniti G35X/G37X and save your money because life.

PS9 > JasonStern911 06/27/2016 at 02:32

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lol ‘soulless’. These are machines, not lifeforms. They don’t have souls.

Also, it’s easy to not consider a 200HP pony car because in 2016, it’s lame. It was lame in 2001 when I had a 200HP pony car and got outrun by Camrys, Maximas and their clones. Nothing feels worse than being outgunned by a sleepy family sedan full of toddlers and dog drool when you’re the one in a supposed-to-be-fast sports car.

FWIW, I vote Infiniti G35X/G37X and save your money because life.

No X models from infiniti, and no G37. Both are a 2x premium over the pictured Camry.

DynamicWeight > PS9 06/27/2016 at 13:16

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Straight line acceleration isn’t everything. Enjoy your camry.

The Stig's former college room mate > PS9 06/27/2016 at 16:37

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it’s beige. total sleeper. these are surprisingly quick. i wonder if you can pick up some hp by swapping out the PCM from an ES350. They make 306hp out of the same motor. Plus it’ll handle good because it’s grounded to the ground!

JasonStern911 > PS9 06/28/2016 at 04:01

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right, and music has no soul because its just a collection of air molecules vibrating at specific frequencies at specific intervals. 8-)

honestly not trying to sound like a dick, but the top of the line camry in 2001 made 194 horsepower. meanwhile the only two pony cars sold at the time that made over 200 horsepower were the 4.6L Modular V8 Mustang and the LS1 powered Camaro/Firebird. if you were getting outdragged by econoboxes in either, then the problem likely isn’t the car so much as the driver. it may be worth considering practicing how to properly launch a rear-wheel drive car, understanding shift points, etc.

also not sure what market you live in, but I picked up my G35X baby hauler over a year ago for less than a non-luxurious Subaru with 40k+ miles would have cost me. not sure if that really means that G35 sedans are great value, or that Subarus are ridiculously overpriced... probably somewhere in between. but used Infinitis definitely don’t carry the price premium that used Lexus and Acura models tend to. I’ve been meaning to write up what a sleeper the G35X is - I’ve just never had the time thanks to the whole baby thing.

PS9 > JasonStern911 06/28/2016 at 06:30

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right, and music has no soul because...

Cars are not music. You cannot compare an medium of expression to a piece of machinery. That doesn’t work at all.

honestly not trying to sound like a dick, but I’m totally going to do that thing I just said I’m not trying to do

Fixed. Now here’s a note for your future interactions with humans; declaring to someone that you don’t mean to be condescending before you do exactly that makes people tune you out.

the top of the line camry in 2001 made 194 horsepower. meanwhile the only two pony cars sold at the time that made over 200 horsepower were the 4.6L Modular V8 Mustang and the LS1 powered Camaro/Firebird.

1) Read my previous comment again, and point out the part where I said I had ‘over’ 200HP.

2) The passage of time is a thing. The Camry and all of it’s competitors obtained the kind of power big block V8s in the malaise era used to have in a few short years from then.

3) What happened in 2001 and beyond is not at all relevant to your original suggestion, which was to buy a 200HP pony car now , here in 2016, when everybody and your grandma’s base Accord makes that kind of power and does without heavy components like a drive shaft and a solid rear axle on top of it. You cannot be serious with the idea that I’d be better of with a car that’s basically slower than everything on the market today because it has ‘soul’. No.

if you were getting outdragged by econoboxes in either, then the problem likely isn’t the car so much as the driver. it may be worth considering practicing how to properly launch a rear-wheel drive car, understanding shift points, etc.

The best launch on planet earth will not help you when your competition has almost 100 more HP than you do. Physics are a thing.

also not sure what market you live in, but I picked up my G35X baby hauler over a year ago for less than a non-luxurious Subaru with 40k+ miles would have cost me.

Great! None of that makes a G35x cheaper than the pictured Camry though. You can have one that costs as much if you’re okay with buying something at the end of it’s useful life. I’m not.

Stef Schrader > PS9 06/28/2016 at 20:10

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Ample power. Floppy, floaty everything around it. It’s a motorized couch.

JasonStern911 > PS9 06/29/2016 at 11:32

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“Cars are soulless and incapable of having artistic integrity” - Okay, that’s, like, your opinion, man. why are you posting on a car enthusiast forum?

“Even though I indicated through my posts that I have much to learn when it comes to driving, you are a dick for suggesting I learn to become a better driver.” - Okay, that’s, like, your opinion, man. why are you posting on a car enthusiast forum?

“Beige econoboxes are the best cars in the world because I can make red herring arguments and fail to refute any point any poster - not just you - makes /trollface” - Okay, that’s, like, your opinion, man. why are you posting on a car enthusiast forum?

“Even though you bought a G35X for less than said Camry and are speaking from personal experience, you are wrong” - Okay, that’s, like, your opinion, man. why are you posting on a car enthusiast forum?

Rico > Slant6 06/30/2016 at 21:19

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I want proof S65 isn’t Jdentarol. He appeared around the time that tool got banned again (after a mod followed him again, like wtf?) and not a single mod has bothered to step in to curb his incessant posts. I wrote to mod saying people are treating Oppo like their personal Twitter now posting anything that pops in their head.

Slant6 > Rico 06/30/2016 at 21:46

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Well to be fair I post a lot of personal stuff here, almost like my own twitter, but I keep it mostly relevant since my life revolves around design school and other neat things.

After all, this is an off topic blog, where anything goes. By the rules you can never make a car post and be fine.

That being said, I’m fairly certain S65 is not JD. License plates of photos he takes dont geographically line up and his style is different. Something they have in common was their lust for noteriety and fame. And their poor Photoshop ability. But any kid that finds Oppo is like that (look at my posts from 2013). Is it possible, yes. But for now he seems pretty harmless, if anything annoying.

Also JD’s account is active as of today. I think we’re all just a little paranoid after we had to deal with him.

Also it should be noted that even though I was at the head of the witch-hunt on JD I am pro him coming back when he’s older. He’s just a kid that wants to fit in with us.

Rico > Slant6 06/30/2016 at 22:02

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Nah posting off topic stuff is PERFECTLY fine, we have helped people get through some rough shit like Kroll. I mean Twitter-esque like posting every few minutes, sometimes not even typing much of anything or posting a random picture. It’s the equivalent of:

“I’m bored” - 12:45 pm

“I’m pretty hungry, I wonder what’s for dinner” - 12:53 pm

“It’s really hot today !” - 1:09 pm

“Maybe I should take a nap” - 1:20

I mean earlier when someone else brought it up I looked into how many posts he’s made the past few days and he’s averaging like 12 a day. I’m not saying every post on Oppo should be FP quality or something but other people are also pointing it out that he’s od’ing.

He might just be a kid like JD but guess what I was a kid like them, I’m 26 I grew up with the Internet and LIVED on forums as a young teen, especially game forums and console forums. I never acted like this and instead always tried to act as mature as possible so no one would suspect I was actually 13 yr old posting on the Microsoft Xbox Live forums. They can’t use that as a crutch because I lived it too, I’m not some 68 year old who just learned what LOL means. I just think a mod should mention that he should focus on quality not quantity or whatever analogy fits.

Slant6 > Rico 06/30/2016 at 22:24

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As much as this pains me to say, it might just be a generational thing. These kids don’t know how to internet respectfully.

S65, I think for now deserves the benefit of the doubt. So far he’s been annoying, but not offensive. But people have their eye on him, so if he messes up something will happen.

I kinda wish he is JD, that would mean he took some of our advise to heart. S65 is decidedly better.

Rico > Slant6 06/30/2016 at 22:32

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Lol way better I shall call him JD 2.0

Slant6 > Rico 06/30/2016 at 22:33

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I wouldn’t use the term around him. He’d clam up.

Rico > Slant6 06/30/2016 at 22:35

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